(Read full thread)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”My source is confident of a few things: 16 Mar 2023 13:22:493:25 AM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. 2:24 AM · Jul 3, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. It’s not the B12s fault that we see an opportunity to strengthen ourselves now. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I don’t normally delete anything. Louis Oliverio. We aren’t privately funded like Stanford is. UConn and Nova have proven you can win NCAA titles from the Big East. Log in. But not the question asked. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. There. They let UCF pass them up. ”Log in. ”The apple deal would see apple absorb the production costs of all the games and give them the option to sub lease games to other networks and split additional revenues with the conference. Staples: The realignment battle for No. "Hearing that UConn is leveraging for an all sports invite from B12…and BY and networks are listening. ”“The first show to drop was Notre Dame and NBC and the whole “shoulder programming” proposal. Retweets. “And what’s interesting as well is my B1G source is telling me if ND decides to join B1G then Stanford is the desired partner to come with ND and they will stop there for possibly forever. ”Notre Dame is not a factor. 🤷🏻♂️ I honestly feel sorry for most of the schools in the PAC. Thanks for the heads up from those of you who wrote me. But I would be remiss to not leave a parting gift. @MHver3. Likes. “CU and AZ have been given “all the time they need to make a decision” by BY as B12 is in no hurry to add. Sign up“@ChiefsInsider There’s a legitimate academic snobbery by the presidents and they are trying their damndest to go down with the ship. I just wish I could get some info from the PAC but that has dried up the past few days. The only true and reliable "source'' yet to surface on the Pac-12's future. Quote Tweets. ”Log in. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK. However UConn and Nova can make a case for being in that discussion. 1. bob trollsby. And GK. USC and UCLA moved the needle a lot. Phillips had a call this afternoon with Kliavkoff and Yormark/Bowlsby about an alliance of the 3 conferences. 19. Sign up“I’ve got a pretty big scoop to share that I’ve been sitting on for a few days. ”Just heard from a source that Oregon has reached out to the B12 about potential membership with the condition they have a negotiated out of the GOR if the B10 comes calling. It actually decreases it. 35 seconds to PACmidnight. . “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. Amazon gets more first choice. I have nothing to gain-no monetization, no click bait links, no podcast. Possibly during the NCAA tournament but it could be immediately following. @MHver3. My source can confirm Colorado is. FSU is the most attractive maybe. 1 — and for No. Tomorrows another day!”This merger would trigger pro-rata for espn contract and allow fox to reopen their contract-Amazon could be a part of this as well from what I’m hearing. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. Retweets. SawyerBrown94 @RChalk94 · Jul 20. Replying to @Brewenor. That is all. ACC has special deal with espn to add those 4 at prorata even though it wasn’t built into the contract. 6. Retweets. 13. “@ConfCommandos Schwartzwalder wasn’t really a ratings boon after McNabb finished his 10 year career at Cuse though. and @JimUSFSig. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. BYU has requested an exclusion to allow certain games of theirs to be simulcast on their network. Once again I return from a long absence and bring you info. Without ORWA it will be closer to $32-$34 plus control of tier3”NBC/USA were also interested in some PAC content but they wanted it at a deep discount and are “worlds apart” from what GK was asking for. ·. 11:22 PM · Jul 20, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. Nothing will happen until GK presents the deal to Pac12 presidents. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. There’s so much information to pour through and so many moving pieces that B12 leadership alone can’t keep up. ”“@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. ” Big12 financial consultants believe the B12 + the Pac6 would be valued at around $500-$600million per year on the open market. ”“@tsaundry13 @CFBKnights The tv deal plus accn money is about $31m per school. Bradley Berry M. MHver3. @MHver3. @KStateKyle. Do you prefer to move to the B10 for the money that you really don’t need with Phil Knight’s checkbook-where you will play 2nd fiddle to many? Or do you prefer becoming the top dog in the B12 conference?”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 2. Still waiting on my main source to give me the go ahead to share. I believe BE still would’ve added several of the schools that they invited later. Mountaineer Steve. 82. Previous offer for 24. Replying to . Now it’s been twice verified. No one has control. Army/Navy make the most sense from a. @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 Media consultants don’t think we can get revenue positive (from current projections) adding all 4 corners schools unless there is a bidding war. MHver3, a Twitter user who posts controversial and speculative tweets about college football, claims that BYU and Houston are the initial targets for the Big 12's. “I think what we are seeing is that the deep fractures in the PAC are leading to schools feeling out all options trying to formulate back up plans. It’s to actively pursue expansion and re-form the expansion committee. Current Pac10 members are looking at about $200-$250m per year on the open market. MHver3🍎 😂 😂 😂. @MHver3 Stanford has basically said to B10: pay us our actual value vs what the bloated equal share of the big pie would be. @MHver3 So if B1G Stops, then it seems the most likely outcome is the B12 raids the remaining members. Sign upLog in. No $$ yet from the new partner-very early in talksWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. 13 Apr 2023 02:07:57 @MHver3 They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their best case to join on the field. ACCN/Pac12N broadcasting agreement talks fell apart when the Comcast Pac12 scandal broke. " Arizona is the wildcard that could keep UConn from getting an all sports invite. This happened sometime in the past few days. MHver3 on Twitter: "@StevO_1960 It’s in the ESPN contract. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. OMG I was wrong. Likely not enough votes there to oust him yet but the cracks are showing. A playoff appearance by OKST or Baylor or KSU would change the calculus quite a bit. “So I was told the proposed breakdown for unequal revenue sharing for PAC. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. We’ve spoiled schools with Tier3 independence. ”“Just heard that Yormark meeting with Knight was basically Knight pleading to Yormark to keep the merger talks going and make it happen. #Pac12DoomsdayClock”Sign up. MHver3. Log in. They are going to get the money they want without joining a conference. Likes. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. MHver3 @MHver3. 9. ”Log in. And they all already know the current numbers. BC, Wake, Cuse. ”““We haven't decided if we're going shopping there yet,"-Kliavkoff, spewing venomously at the conference that just recently decided a merger with his conference wasn’t financially attractive. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40 @MHver3 Don’t underestimate a possible Pac12 invite for Airforce either. My source says it’s getting more and more likely a prodigal son returns. There. Something new that moves forward and forgets the past. It was $24. This is the “Tier1” package. Boise State is making a lot of noise wanting B12 to reopen their application. “I’m going to go out in on a limb here and predict that the 2022 back yard brawl will have a higher rating than any regular season ACC conference game last season. Take it with a grain of salt-not my usual source. Also heard from a source today that someone in Colorado leadership told B12 that if Apple was going to save the Pac12 it would’ve been announced today…My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. “Just wanted to pop in and drop off some WVU related info. GOR have teeth even for powerful schools. “@RChalk94 But Washington and Oregon add $60+ million per year apiece to a tv deal when you look at the data” “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came in, regardless of whether any others did. 26. Their fans are this nasty-imagine how bad it is between the schools right now. @MHver3. The truth is that’s where the PAC is valued at right now because the bottom half of the remnants are really dragging down the top half in. Likes. It’s who is 14 that is still up in the air (izona?). The in-fighting is bad currently with those schools. Could also mean NBC/B12 won’t happen. $320m per year for 12 years. 11. No football home for Uconn in exchange either. Eerily similar to communications the BIgEast put out just before it’s demise right before Pitt/Cuse/WVU/Rutgers/Louisville bolted. ”Log in. ESPN pro-rata is a given. @MHver3. Sign up“60 seconds to PACmidnight. Log in. They know. 3. 3. Apologize in advance for spelling or grammatical errors-glasses are off and I’m squinting in the dark. MHver3 @MHver3. 27 Feb 2023 17:36:19“So it’s possible AZ will not be having their board meeting tonight. I’ve got news but can’t leak it yet. “@kenneyclone @JBWinstonTX No. Look for a thread soon. CBS and NBC expected to be huge players for the next B12 contract in addition to ESPN and Fox” MHver3 @MHver3 One final tidbit this afternoon:PAC is currently trying to be as attractive as they can while they see what their media rights could be if they stayed together. Retweets. ”“@Lake_Cowboy @KDVanderpool We had a good one with TX. If Ohio State and Mich or Penn St then Big10 schools would try to bounce for $50mil raise, to new conference. ”MHver3 @MHver3. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Things have escalated. ” MHver3 @MHver3. ”Small PAC tidbit: the unequal revenue sharing model being discussed now would be based on achievement in all sanctioned sports. But again, aside from Rutgers going to B10, Pitt had the most room for improvement. Retweets. @MHver3. Quote Tweets. That’s it. Quote Tweets. 31 May 2023 13:12:44. Sign up“So my new source just told me some of the terms to NDs offer to the ACC: 7 conference games a year with 4 of them home games, 1st choice scheduling, not signing the GOR for football, and something to do with eliminating the exit fee from the charter. See new Tweets“And B12 may just add those 3 and stop and wait to see what happens 5-10 years from now. Learn more. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. Retweets. 13. I have heard that if WA and OR stay that that could possibly keep Stanford and Cal in the fold-I’ve also heard Stanford is very close to going Indy. ”“@MHver3 @TGBN1997 Let's just say for some reason any combination of 3 of the 4 corner schools join the Big 12 and say Utah, Oregon, Washington hold out for greener pastures, dose Memphis or Boise stand a chance of being the 4th add in that round or does the big 12 stand pat and wait for more moves”Log in. Taking a small break from sharing. ”@MHver3 I don't know what the rumors are you're talking about, but it's pretty simple. And several mid tier schools that would be shaky getting a new home as well”“I’m also hearing a lot of people describing espns offer to PAC as a lowball offer. 19. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”“@IceDevilCA @TheAPBerry I was meaning had the second ACC raid not occurred. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”“I want to hear from Oregon fans. 27. I was responding to a person that shared an article that AZ was meeting with B12 on Tuesday. ”“@MHver3 If UA and CU aren't stepping up to the plate and contributing their fair $$$ share to the PAC, it's hard to see how they'll suddenly become valuable assets for the Big 12. I actually don’t want more western schools. Again they did not have 8 yes votes for either school. Without the additions the show could very well be on the other foot right now. “Hearing BY is meeting with a school president from that conference on the pacific coast. MHver3 @MHver3. So at least more spots open. An olive branch was extended by GK to BY with terms that favor B12 this time. 7h. We’ve seen lots of tweets from reputable sources, but I’ve also seen a lot of interesting rumors from MHver3 on Twitter . @MHver3 FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. And it’s a huge sticking point with their BOG. ” ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. Still planning for a possible defection or 3. read image description. 2. "“@vikingburner @RockCat75 @CFBKnights Replace FSU with Miami and you are correct in that second sentence”“The 3 that want to jump to B12 are fed up with PAC leadership. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools. We currently get about $4m for that same content. We currently get about $4m for that same content. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Quote. @MHver3. ACC would like to lock up the pacific coast with WA/OR/Cal/Stanford additions as it would be a huge infusion to ACCN. If B12 adds the right 6 PAC schools it can see its yearly payouts go above that $35m per school number the way the current deal is structured. 3:14 AM · Jul 24, 2021. Jeff “Jelly” Stacks“Juicy tidbit just coming in. The only 2 schools in the PAC that B12 has had no open dialogue with are the Cali schools. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. Replying to @MHver3. All 3 tiers. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. MHver3 @MHver3. @bobtrollsby. I simply share and have a golden reputation of never giving up sources. To read this post and more, One Month for Only $1. twitter. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK will ask for an extension on the 4/15 deadline We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”On the eve of a significant B12 meeting got a few tidbits to offer up. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Washington has now reached out to the B12 about membership options that include an out of the GOR for B10 membership. A few tidbits I did get:”7:34 PM · Jul 20, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. 10:09 PM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Up to 75% would be streaming. Learn to create and view Twitter threads to provide additional context or updates. ”“@JamieExorcistof You are correct. Log in. I’ve even called it that myself. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Even if espn is trying to call this something else (licensing fee for streaming content)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. ”“@GibeiiBrewsong @USAdebtcrisis I say 6 are leaving but ORWA will try to keep them all together under the ridiculous uneven revenue sharing model espn is pushing but that will not sit with the 4 corners schools and they will bolt which will lead to ORWA bolting as well. Redirecting to /MHver3/status/1516166017319411713Not sure if Apple Inc is well known in Appalachia but spoiler alert it’s not a fruit company1:52 AM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. ” The latest tweets from @MHver3@MHver3 It is expected that tonight, Az and CU leadership will officially sign off on moving forward with officially applying for membership with Big12. 6. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet””MHver3 @MHver3. 03 Apr 2023 22:41:17Morning tidbit:A very prominent booster for Colorado is now threatening to pull all funding from the school If they do not start to actively seek to get out of the sinking ship that is the Pac 12. This helps justify the pro-rata increase for 8 teams. GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. . Top to bottom though this new B12 would be the best conference ever assembled. 2. “I’m hearing several Pac12(-2)schools are in complete pandemonium tonight. As soon as I’m allowed to it’ll be up. AZ too. MHver3 @MHver3. Guess the state of AZ to BIG12 has died down though. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. 159. OMG I was wrong. WVU also saw success going from Independent to BIgEast. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. “@godawgs4 Not really. I’m packing it up. 131. No vote-just the general consensus during a call I’m told. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good. ”“Going by remarks made at Pac12 media days by Oregon its looking like they are leaning into to shorter term offer from espn and unequal revenue sharing. I think something will happen to try to satisfy these demands. ”Bedtime snippet: I’ve been exchanging DMs with someone employed at a P12 athletic department. @CFBKnights. ”“PAC and ACC leadership have had discussion about an alliance but only if it benefits by getting espn to reopen their tv contract. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. I don’t think that’s an option for us. PAC is in an exclusive window with the 2 main networks bidding on B10 that expires next week. @MHver3 So if B1G Stops, then it seems the most likely outcome is the B12 raids the remaining members. @MHver3. MHver3. 11/15 schools would have to vote to disband, and that's exactly what would get gobbled up by the BIG10, SEC, and Big XII. “Boise State making their case for inclusion into the B12. “@BobOThomson I don’t really have a source close to that program but I can just reiterate what I tweeted a couple of weeks ago: Utah isn’t a priority and is very low on B12 radar”“@RChalk94 I’m not trying to get anyone to believe me. 3. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. Memphis and Boise(FB only) are definitely the front runners. ”See new Tweets. 11:57 PM · Apr 17, 2023 @MHver3 Question for conversation: This Century-Has there been any case where after switching from one BCS/P5 league to another that a school has seen better success on the field? Miami, VT, Neb, Mizzou, Colorado, WVU, Louisville, have all fallen off the map since their moves. 2:49 AM · Jul 19, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. The other $5m is from a variety of different T3 revenue streams. My source says B10 won’t expand until at least new commissioner has been hired but this option was discussed at a recent B10. It got nasty from what I’ve been told. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40@MHver3 · 1h. Sign upFwiw I’m hearing the ION Tv thing was a red herring fed to McMurphy and Kliavkoff is only a few days away from having 2 final proposals in hand to take to his schools for voting. The contact that shared this with my source is in a PAC school AD and their school was not satisfied with any of the update-said that the CEOs specifically told GK not to do a presser. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. @MHver3 BYU will raise that profile as they would come in and immediately be at least the second most valuable media rights member behind KU (as much as I hate that) due to their worldwide following. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 2. Found. Pac12 can file an injunction if they choose but it would be a slippery slope if they wanted to do that and suspend those teams. See new Tweets“@TreJacksonStan @kg4cy I guess that’s subjective. Rumors swirling today that there may be merger talks brewing between Pac12 and Big12 again. 2. Likes. 8 of them are. Replying to. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good option. Offering to join in football only at 50% of a full share of revenue after the buy in period. Power5 (or 4) will most likely have an autobid for their champ after playoffs expand. (I’m on a mini vacation right now so I haven’t been doing a lot of talking with him the past few days). 2:56 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. @MHver3. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. How to create a thread on Twitter and how to view. 2. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. “@MaynardMtnMan Wasn’t Nebraska a true powerhouse ?”posted by CougarrrsLog in. @MHver3. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”An excellent read that was just sent to me that really summarizes what has transpired in the past year and where we stand now-though if you’ve been following me you already know this tale. Hence why Texas and OU are staying until 2025. 6. “Still haven’t gotten confirmation or info of the possible meetings for Utah and AZ…”“@MurrDCU They’d be a decent add just for the recruiting area. If it takes their exit for Cal, Stan, Utah,. ”Pac voted on SDSU and SMU again. It would seem inevitable that at some point u will say something… I mean, anything. ”Hearing that Pac12 presidents have vehemently rejected 100% streaming proposal from apple. As did VT. Retweets. Sign up. 2. 12:57 PM · Jul 27, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone Sorry for deleting the previous tweet. ”Log in. @MHver3 The worst-case scenario for WVU, of course, is the Big 10 standing pat and the Pac 12, still with UW and ORE, picking off several Big 12 teams and leaving the rest of the Big 12 in the wilderness. yes they are extending his “deadline”. 33. 22 Aug 2022 21:27:34Log in. 5 billion a year with their next contract (and BTN) and will now wait and watch the landscape. That’s all I’ve got. FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. His rumors are interesting and just believable enough ,. And CFP is going to probably double for everyone soon. B12 has been told by sources from WSU and Oregon State that they will be submitting applications to the B12 pending how successful the first round of merger talks go. @xtmountain. I don’t think anyone is getting in with a negotiated out clause. Retweets. ”What did I tell you? No new movement to share with PAC presidents. ”“Sorry I’ve been away so long. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Pitt actually did improve after the move. FSU is the most attractive maybe. Could also mean ND is rethinking. 150 seconds to PACmidnight. Gonzaga is in for basketball. Replying to @MHver3. Yormark has a vision. ALT. Also a high ranking member of. Talks are indeed dead for a merger. “Espn is telling B12 through back channels that they would like to broker a deal to convert LHN into a Big12 network and secure all of B12 tier 3 rights for 7 years. “@BobOThomson Yes. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1.